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Han SOLO Does he or doesnt he have the force
« on: Oct 15, 04, 04:34:34 pm CDT »

ok everyone here's the question, based on what you have seen in the movies,read etc..
Does Han solo have/use the force? Whether he knows it or not..
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 15, 04, 04:52:34 pm CDT »

Leia seems to think so.... ;-)
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 15, 04, 05:38:49 pm CDT »

Absolutely friggin' NOT!!!
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 16, 04, 08:26:13 am CDT »

I think that Han has just got that good 'ol gamblers luck.  He relies more on his charm to get him out of situations.

He can test the force of his charm on me any time he wants to.....  :twisted:


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« Reply #4 on: Oct 16, 04, 09:53:17 am CDT »

here be the link to the jedi quiz...
due to an defeciency in computer geek genes i can't figure out how to post the HTML..but here is the web page listed below ::arr: !
I was Han Solo...
"jedi schmedi.... who needs the force? I got me a wookie!"


http://www.gaijindesign.com/lawriemalen/jedi/
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 16, 04, 10:17:47 am CDT »

he he Funny quiz. I like the shot it gives you of Samuel Jackson as Mace. It says "I'm a Jedi Master. Hand me my lightsabre. It's the one that says 'bad motherfucker' on it."  8)
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 18, 04, 08:44:10 am CDT »

no...
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 18, 04, 11:28:37 am CDT »

No way.
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Re: how jedi am I?
« Reply #8 on: Oct 18, 04, 05:32:08 pm CDT »

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here be the link to the jedi quiz...
due to an defeciency in computer geek genes i can't figure out how to post the HTML..but here is the web page listed below ::arr: !
I was Han Solo...
"jedi schmedi.... who needs the force? I got me a wookie!"


http://www.gaijindesign.com/lawriemalen/jedi/


nice test.. hmm

i answered all the questions as I would.. and look what happened:

http://www.gaijindesign.com/lawriemalen/jedi/hansolo.html

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« Reply #9 on: Oct 19, 04, 12:33:44 pm CDT »

Time for King Nerd of Dorkshire to chime in at the bequest of the Wolf.  This is an excerpt from an IM convo between myself and Dmitri on this thread, posted here with permission.  No names have been changed as we know there really isn't anyone innocent anymore, just corrected the type-o's to make it easier to read:


dmitriwolf: did you see the arguement on the Rogue board about Han and the force?

edgelord2003: I've been avoiding it.

dmitriwolf: dumbasses

edgelord2003: Problem is that I know the full answer and I really don't feel like Brennan or Gardo raking me over the coals for being a bigger geek than they are

dmitriwolf: AH... answer from the books, the game, or the movies...

edgelord2003: From Lucasfilm.

edgelord2003: Archived interviews with Lucas as ESB was going into preproduction.

dmitriwolf: he has the force right?

dmitriwolf: which makes Han suck

edgelord2003: NO, he doesn't because Luke is no longer part of him.

edgelord2003: Shall I explain?

dmitriwolf: :roll:

edgelord2003: OK...(puts on taped together glasses and adjusts pocket protector) In the original drafts up until they started working on the shooting script Han and Luke existed as one character. Amusingly Obi-Wan and Chewie were also one character. (Chewie was supposed to be reptilian.) Vader's paternity didn't exist until DURING the ESB shoot.  It was a last second decision by Lucas to add draw value to the film so that he'd guarentee people would come back for a third to find out if Vader was full of shit or not.  How evil is beating the snot out of a potential corrupted and then really bringing anguish to him by claiming to be his pop when you actually aren't?

Anyway - back to Han having the Force. Originally when Lucas decided that it was impossible for Han/Luke to have all the fun as they worked on the early drafts of the shooting script Lucas and his team decided to split the two.  Huge rewrite later.  Han and Luke are now two people, Chewie is now Icthalian (fishlike) and Obi is pretty much as we know him now. It was originally decided that Luke was to pass the banner to Han if he croaked because being Force sensitive would explain Han's stoopid luck when it comes to piloting and shooting.

Once the Vader Paternity thing crept into the story arc is when Lucas also responded to the pressure of many of the women working for and with him to have the baton pass go to a woman instead of Han. Make Han stoopid lucky and skilled and leave it to someone else...like Leia who went from supporting character to lead role thanks to Carrie Fisher's amazing performance. Lucas then came up with the whole family thing... which you see in ROTJ

Thus in, in the end, Han is merely an example of Roguish skill.  Luke is the farm boy with a difference, Leia gets promoted to having powers, Chewie gets hairy and OBi Wan is cool for a centengenarian.  Any questions?
edgelord2003: I guess not.  (Takes off taped glasses and pocket protector.) Geof?  You there?

dmitriwolf: back...

edgelord2003: The other reason I didn't post that discertation is because, even though I can prove my data there will still be people that simply post "you're wrong because it doesn't jive with my opnions" and I have no use for that shit.
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 19, 04, 01:22:26 pm CDT »

Well Ron it looks like you explained it all very well and in depth and put the Wolf to sleep in the process, like the rest who found ourselve in the unfortunate possition of reading this drivel.

But see I didn't once flame you on being a geek and I would never claim to be a bigger geek then you.

I stuff you in a locker for your geekiness my liege
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 19, 04, 01:24:33 pm CDT »

I remember those interviews... als explains the brother/sister kiss in SW5
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 19, 04, 01:45:08 pm CDT »

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Well Ron it looks like you explained it all very well and in depth and put the Wolf to sleep in the process, like the rest who found ourselve in the unfortunate possition of reading this drivel.

But see I didn't once flame you on being a geek and I would never claim to be a bigger geek then you.

I stuff you in a locker for your geekiness my liege


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« Reply #13 on: Oct 19, 04, 11:02:18 pm CDT »

I think it was very refreshing.. so in first movie he had the force,,. then in next he didnt cause they wanted leia.. and in prequels...its effing biology!!!
midchlorean!!! and anakin is JESUS christ stupidstar!
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unless of course brennan attacks..
sounds like a movie..
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« Reply #14 on: Oct 20, 04, 06:36:04 am CDT »

That sounds like a fox special

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« Reply #15 on: Oct 20, 04, 07:32:34 am CDT »

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so in first movie he had the force,,. then in next he didnt cause they wanted leia.. and in prequels...its effing biology!!


Umm... no read 6th Rogue's post again...
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« Reply #16 on: Oct 20, 04, 09:11:48 am CDT »

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Sounds more like Springer.   :lol:

There's a "Fan Theory" going around that Lucas might touch on in the next flick or might not.  Try this on for size:

It's been stated that the Jedi can influence or even control the weak minded (Random: "You don't need to see my driver's liscense.") and the Sith are even more potent in controlling the mind both with use of the Force and use of skullduggery.  Since Darth Sideous (aka President/Senator/Emperor Palpatine) is the undisputed master of the mindfuck there is a VERY strong chance that Anakin is his son.  He finds a good hearted but not very bright young woman (Schmi Skywalker) and thru a use of Mind Powers, Sith techniques and access to the most advanced psycholabs and biolabs creates a zygote based on his sperm and cranks the midochlorian factor and any other factors he needs.  Sets Schmi up to have no memory of impregnation and then plants her, with her head rearranged to think that everything's normal, somewhere out of the way like...oh, Tatooine.  He then sets about his other plans as she has the kid with no idea where he came from.  

That would mean that Little Ani grows up to be an absentee dad before commiting patricede.  That would also mean Luke's grandfather was a total bastard.

Mind you this is a fan theory but one that doesn't have any holes in it.  I personally subscribe to it because it fills in quite a few plot holes VERY smoothly.

Thoughts?  Intelligent ones prefered, thank you.
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« Reply #17 on: Oct 20, 04, 10:21:41 am CDT »

Quote from: "The 6th Rogue"
Mind you this is a fan theory but one that doesn't have any holes in it.  I personally subscribe to it because it fills in quite a few plot holes VERY smoothly.


Which proves that it cant be from Lucas, it fits into the story and leaves no plot holes...Lucas probaly plans on lucks dad being youday 2nd cousin... :roll:
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 16, 04, 11:04:37 pm CST »

Han does not have the Force. Or rather, his blood does not contain enough of the requisite 'midi-chlorians' (which, IMHO, is just a lot of dragon-dung) to weild the Force in a suffient manner; but is just enough to father the Jedi Twins & Annikin Solo.
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 16, 04, 11:17:39 pm CST »

Bad rogue, no unburying old threads
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